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	<title>Comments on: The Open vs. Secure Debate: Mint.com and ING Direct won&#8217;t play nice</title>
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	<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/</link>
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		<title>By: Ryan Graves</title>
		<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-1390</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love a good call out. Tell those turds who&#039;s boss.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for stoppin by Garret!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love a good call out. Tell those turds who&#39;s boss.</p>
<p>Thanks for stoppin by Garret!</p>
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		<title>By: ryangraves</title>
		<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>ryangraves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love a good call out. Tell those turds who&#039;s boss.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for stoppin by Garret!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love a good call out. Tell those turds who&#39;s boss.</p>
<p>Thanks for stoppin by Garret!</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to Justin&#039;s &quot;Tell me another bank thats open 7 days a week 8 am to 8 pm ALL time zones across the US?&quot;:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;E*TRADE! Pull your head out of your ass and look at your competition! Just because you&#039;re riding the first-mover wave (or maybe you copied E*Trades lack brick &amp; mortar, no fee, 24/7 cust service business model), it in no way means your competitive advantage is sustainable!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Somebody skipped the PR course in business school...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to Justin&#39;s &#8220;Tell me another bank thats open 7 days a week 8 am to 8 pm ALL time zones across the US?&#8221;:</p>
<p>E*TRADE! Pull your head out of your ass and look at your competition! Just because you&#39;re riding the first-mover wave (or maybe you copied E*Trades lack brick &#038; mortar, no fee, 24/7 cust service business model), it in no way means your competitive advantage is sustainable!</p>
<p>Somebody skipped the PR course in business school&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ryangraves</title>
		<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>ryangraves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you commented, I&#039;ve been thinking about this all morning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think this is a risk to &lt;a href=&quot;http://Mint.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mint.com&lt;/a&gt; because it may be even tougher now to&lt;br&gt;incorporate/integrate with other big banks now that intuit owns it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you commented, I&#39;ve been thinking about this all morning.</p>
<p>I think this is a risk to <a href="http://Mint.com" rel="nofollow">Mint.com</a> because it may be even tougher now to<br />incorporate/integrate with other big banks now that intuit owns it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-1019</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like all of this discussion is a moot point now as &lt;a href=&quot;http://Mint.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mint.com&lt;/a&gt; was acquired by Intuit.  For &lt;a href=&quot;http://mint.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mint.com&lt;/a&gt;, who always said they were anti-bank, they now have to renege on their ideals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like all of this discussion is a moot point now as <a href="http://Mint.com" rel="nofollow">Mint.com</a> was acquired by Intuit.  For <a href="http://mint.com" rel="nofollow">mint.com</a>, who always said they were anti-bank, they now have to renege on their ideals.</p>
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		<title>By: DFWDraco76</title>
		<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-1018</link>
		<dc:creator>DFWDraco76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you bet - thanks for posting this!  I tweeted about it earlier this morning:  &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/dfwdraco76/status/3932692266&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://twitter.com/dfwdraco76/status/3932692266&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you bet &#8211; thanks for posting this!  I tweeted about it earlier this morning:  <a href="https://twitter.com/dfwdraco76/status/3932692266" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/dfwdraco76/status/3932692266</a></p>
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		<title>By: ryangraves</title>
		<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-1017</link>
		<dc:creator>ryangraves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with the point you&#039;ve made here most: &quot;There&#039;s no reason ING&lt;br&gt;an&#039;t provide the good security that all customers expect, while at the same&lt;br&gt;time providing the same functionality and access that have become &quot;industry&lt;br&gt;standard&quot;.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems to me that since almost every other bank has been able to make this&lt;br&gt;work and keep things secure it must be an ING problem. However, I&#039;m not&lt;br&gt;ready to leave them yet, I will wait also.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for chiming in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the point you&#39;ve made here most: &#8220;There&#39;s no reason ING<br />an&#39;t provide the good security that all customers expect, while at the same<br />time providing the same functionality and access that have become &#8220;industry<br />standard&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems to me that since almost every other bank has been able to make this<br />work and keep things secure it must be an ING problem. However, I&#39;m not<br />ready to leave them yet, I will wait also.</p>
<p>Thanks for chiming in!</p>
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		<title>By: DFWDraco76</title>
		<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-1014</link>
		<dc:creator>DFWDraco76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no reason ING an&#039;t provide the good security that all customers expect, while at the same time providing the same functionality and access that have become &quot;industry standard&quot;.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I thought for a second the security of my accounts were compromised by Mint&#039;s read only access to them, I&#039;d never have allowed it in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s no reason ING an&#39;t provide the good security that all customers expect, while at the same time providing the same functionality and access that have become &#8220;industry standard&#8221;.  </p>
<p>If I thought for a second the security of my accounts were compromised by Mint&#39;s read only access to them, I&#39;d never have allowed it in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: DFWDraco76</title>
		<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>DFWDraco76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also just joined the conversation at &lt;a href=&quot;http://getsatisfaction.com/mint/topics/ing_direct_account_cannot_be_added#reply_1354536&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://getsatisfaction.com/mint/topics/ing_dire...&lt;/a&gt; ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Given Robert Weaver&#039;s more polished reply, I&#039;ll probably just continue to wait and see what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also just joined the conversation at <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/mint/topics/ing_direct_account_cannot_be_added#reply_1354536" rel="nofollow">http://getsatisfaction.com/mint/topics/ing_dire&#8230;</a> ;-)</p>
<p>Given Robert Weaver&#39;s more polished reply, I&#39;ll probably just continue to wait and see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: DFWDraco76</title>
		<link>http://thedreaminaction.com/2009/09/04/the-open-vs-secure-debate-mint-com-and-ing-direct-wont-play-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-1015</link>
		<dc:creator>DFWDraco76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post!  I just sent an irritated complaint to ING about this very issue, since Mint has been unable to update my account with them for 3 days.  It&#039;s odd to me how intermittent this thing is -- sometimes it updates &quot;normally&quot; for days and weeks at a time, then other times I&#039;m just cut off.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yours was the first Google hit when I searched on the error Mint shows me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If this is ING&#039;s stance, I, too, may consider taking my money elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post!  I just sent an irritated complaint to ING about this very issue, since Mint has been unable to update my account with them for 3 days.  It&#39;s odd to me how intermittent this thing is &#8212; sometimes it updates &#8220;normally&#8221; for days and weeks at a time, then other times I&#39;m just cut off.</p>
<p>Yours was the first Google hit when I searched on the error Mint shows me.</p>
<p>If this is ING&#39;s stance, I, too, may consider taking my money elsewhere.</p>
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